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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.02.01 01:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Maxtor Killer
Why should he be banned for doing out of game stuff ???
That's like asking ccp to ban people for drunk driving!.
If they were hacked they should report it to the police for a proper investigation as it really is a crime.
you live under the misconception that the service ccp provides for your money grants you any rights to base yourself on. If you read the eula carefully, ccp has the right to ban or delete your account without further notice or explination.
Why someone who brings illegal activities into the community should be banned is kinda obvious.
If you cant see that just go with the explination that ccp will do alot to protect their community from dying because some ppl cant be reached by legal methods.
If enough customers get miffed off or eve gets the news of criminals beating up your homecomps/sites sticked to it, its bad for business. Bad for business is bad for profit and bad for profit is bad for ccp.
All of the above only applies if they actually took steps and ppl just didnt fk up the nametyping. Cba to check myself.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.02.01 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Maxtor Killer
Sure they have the right todo whatever they want within the game, but banning people on "loose" evidence is for me more irritating then macro miners.
If the RKK forums was "hacked" then it's not upto ccp to ban people rather that the person owning the forum and website site should report it to the police, as i stated before that it is a criminal act.
On the other hand kugu states that he got the database from a guy with access to it hence he did not do anything illegal rather being as smart.
We will probably never know unless it gets reported to the police so a proper investigation could be launched.
And from the findings of the police ccp should be able to make a desicion about banning or not.
Cause ill tell u this if they ban kugu that's just gonna send out the wrong signals.
Like dont **** with bob cause there word is law in eve.
i personally dont trust either side in this case but BOTH parties should get the same respect until someone can prove otherwise.
Sorry but you internet lawyer thinking wont work. Unless serious rl cash damage is done no police will investigate, especially not if the hacker is sitting in a "3rd world country" (atleast law wise compared to european and us standards).
So no police will ever launch an investigation or come to a result which can be presented to ccp. The question however remains if ccp should ban players which destroy the gaming experinence by dubious rl means, especially if there is a greyzone where right or wrong cant be covered by law.
As for the rest of your babbeling about "banning ppl who work against bob" im sorry to inform you but other entities have stated to very same accusations against said person. Those groups are not in any way or form allied to bob or wish them well ingame either.
Take your tinfoil hattery elsewhere, i know i would most likely quit -a game- if ppl started to intrude my computer, my privacy or my webspace beyond the avatar level just to maybe find something they could sell for isk to ppl who dont give a damn about the source of their information aslong as its muddy and sticking to your opponents.
Last but not least dont forget that no "they did it first" or "they did something i personally feel equally wrong" makes anything this dude does right.
Tell yourself that its all legit aslong as he sticks it to your opponents but ask yourself how long it will take till your own stuff is out.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.02.01 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Maxtor Killer
mumbo jumbo
RKK like Bob (mainboard) like Goons and some other alliances stated to have been "hacked" via forum exploits by the guy you are cheering for. A guy who has a criminal track record for hacking, a sentence upon him for hacking and openly admits on the goon forums to hacking useraccounts to gain access.
The only thing on his side of the story is that he told you this time: "a m8 gave me all this stuff and he got it given to him by an admin".
So this m8 knows the admins of x alliances, ppl mind you trusted irl within each of the communities who hand out free copies of their respective databases ?
Sorry i think youre the one who is abit naiv here.......
Thats where my tinfoil hat comment came from and the stupid remark.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.02.01 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball
it's no different that logging on someones teamspeak and playing scatman in my opinion, and you can't really say "within the law" cause apparantly where he comes from it is, so more power to him. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
you said it, in "your opinion".
The rest of your post also shows that you have a rather thin knowledge of the whole thing. Just because something is not illegal somewhere on this world it doesnt make it right.
Hacking into european servers or webpages is always illegal no matter where you are from because the location of the server usually give the legal ground not where you are from.
Persecution and punishment is where the problem lies with his activities. Albeit illegal youll find no authority over here following the case because its "minor damage" and not worth the hassle to get shouldered off from a country which doesnt follow the same laws and has no law treaties with either the EU or the US wrg to internet crimes.
In short: He commits a crime but he wont get sentenced. Simply put there is nothing you can do against him, even if he would break into your computer, dos your ts or server or anything else which doesnt cause enough financial damage to get the burecracy moving.
All of the above doesnt make it legal as defined by law tho.
While entering a ts server with a given password is.
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